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	The coaches going to Thessaloniki mostly continue to Athens, so you may again look at [http://www.simeonidistours.gr/tours/index.php Simeonidis Tours] or [http://siamostours.gr/ Siamos tours]. Don’t know if they take bikes?		The coaches going to Thessaloniki mostly continue to Athens, so you may again look at [http://www.simeonidistours.gr/tours/index.php Simeonidis Tours] or [http://siamostours.gr/ Siamos tours]. Don’t know if they take bikes?

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	The coaches going to Thessaloniki mostly continue to Athens, so you may again look at [http://www.simeonidistours.gr/tours/index.php Simeonidis Tours] or [http://siamostours.gr/ Siamos tours]. Don’t know if they take bikes?		The coaches going to Thessaloniki mostly continue to Athens, so you may again look at [http://www.simeonidistours.gr/tours/index.php Simeonidis Tours] or [http://siamostours.gr/ Siamos tours]. Don’t know if they take bikes?

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	=== Skopje ===		=== Skopje ===

	There are two trains per day from Beograd to Skopje. They don’t officially take bikes, but it might still be possible.		There are two trains per day from Beograd to Skopje. They don’t officially take bikes, but it might still be possible and we did in [//ecotopiabiketour.net/g/main.php?g2_itemId=3546 2009] :)

	=== Thessaloniki ===		=== Thessaloniki ===

Sml at 18:25, 9 July 2014

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	There is one train per day from Beograd to Thessaloniki. It doesn’t officially take bikes, but it might still be possible. It is not very well-scheduled with other trains arriving in Beograd.		There is one train per day from Beograd to Thessaloniki. It doesn’t officially take bikes, but it might still be possible. It is not very well-scheduled with other trains arriving in Beograd.

	There are plenty of coaches going to Thessaloniki, for example [http://www.simeonidistours.gr/tours/index.php Simeonidis Tours]. Don’t know if they take bikes?		There are plenty of coaches going to Thessaloniki, for example [http://www.simeonidistours.gr/tours/index.php Simeonidis Tours] or [http://siamostours.gr/ Siamos tours]. Don’t know if they take bikes?

	=== Athens ===		=== Athens ===

			The coaches going to Thessaloniki mostly continue to Athens, so you may again look at [http://www.simeonidistours.gr/tours/index.php Simeonidis Tours] or [http://siamostours.gr/ Siamos tours]. Don’t know if they take bikes?

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	=== From central Europe / via Beograd ===		=== From central Europe / via Beograd ===

	Traveling from central Europe to the Balkan normally involves passing through Beograd, passing either Zagreb or Budapest on the way, as this is where the main road and train connections go. [http://www.orangeways.com/en/ OrangeWays] operates coaches from Germany, Poland, Czech Republic, Croatia, Slovenia, Austria and the Netherlands to Budapest. They accept bicycles for a fee of 7 euros, but they have to be disassembled.		Traveling from central Europe to the Balkan normally involves passing through Beograd, passing either Zagreb or Budapest on the way, as this is where the main road and train connections go.

			[http://www.orangeways.com/en/ OrangeWays] operates coaches from Germany, Poland, Czech Republic, Croatia, Slovenia, Austria and the Netherlands to Budapest. They accept bicycles for a fee of 7 euros, but they have to be disassembled. The internet is full of stories where the coaches have been cancelled and no refund was given, so it doesn’t sound like a very reliable service.

	There are two trains per day from Budapest to Beograd (one of them coming from Praha), with a connecting train that splits in Niš with one half going to Sofia and the other half going to Skopje. There is also one train per day from Beograd to Thessaloniki, but it isn’t synchronised with the train from Budapest. Search the connections on [http://w3.srbrail.rs/zsredvoznje/?lang=en Serbian Railways]. The train from Praha/Budapest to Beograd takes bikes (but they have to be reserved), all connecting trains from Beograd officially don’t, but it is likely that it is still possible somehow.		There are two trains per day from Budapest to Beograd (one of them coming from Praha), with a connecting train that splits in Niš with one half going to Sofia and the other half going to Skopje. There is also one train per day from Beograd to Thessaloniki, but it isn’t synchronised with the train from Budapest. Search the connections on [http://w3.srbrail.rs/zsredvoznje/?lang=en Serbian Railways]. The train from Praha/Budapest to Beograd takes bikes (but they have to be reserved), all connecting trains from Beograd officially don’t, but it is likely that it is still possible somehow.

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Thessaloniki

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	There is one train per day from Beograd to Thessaloniki. It doesn’t officially take bikes, but it might still be possible. It is not very well-scheduled with other trains arriving in Beograd.		There is one train per day from Beograd to Thessaloniki. It doesn’t officially take bikes, but it might still be possible. It is not very well-scheduled with other trains arriving in Beograd.

			There are plenty of coaches going to Thessaloniki, for example [http://www.simeonidistours.gr/tours/index.php Simeonidis Tours]. Don’t know if they take bikes?

	=== Athens ===		=== Athens ===

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Getting from and to individual places the Biketour passes

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	There are several trains per day from Beograd. Officially they don’t take bikes, but it might still be possible somehow. The journey takes 4 to 6 hours and costs ~~around~~ 10 euros.		There are several trains per day from Beograd. Officially they don’t take bikes, but it might still be possible somehow. The journey takes 4 to 6 hours and costs less than 10 euros.

	=== Priština ===		=== Priština ===

Candid at 12:57, 6 July 2014

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	On [http://www.checkmybus.com/ CheckMyBus], you can search coaches throughout Europe. Note that Eurolines goes almost everywhere, but generally does not take bikes.		On [http://www.checkmybus.com/ CheckMyBus], you can search coaches throughout Europe. Note that Eurolines goes almost everywhere, but generally does not take bikes.

			[http://wikitravel.org/en/Main_Page WikiTravel] always has some advice how to get into a certain country.

	== How to get to the Balkan region from different places in Europe ==		== How to get to the Balkan region from different places in Europe ==

	=== From central Europe ===		=== From central Europe / via Beograd ===

	Traveling from central Europe to the Balkan normally involves passing through ~~Belgrade~~, passing either Zagreb or Budapest on the way, as this is where the main road and train connections go. [http://www.orangeways.com/en/ OrangeWays] operates coaches from Germany, Poland, Czech Republic, Croatia, Slovenia, Austria and the Netherlands to Budapest. They accept bicycles for a fee of 7 euros, but they have to be disassembled.		Traveling from central Europe to the Balkan normally involves passing through Beograd, passing either Zagreb or Budapest on the way, as this is where the main road and train connections go. [http://www.orangeways.com/en/ OrangeWays] operates coaches from Germany, Poland, Czech Republic, Croatia, Slovenia, Austria and the Netherlands to Budapest. They accept bicycles for a fee of 7 euros, but they have to be disassembled.

	There are two trains per day from Budapest to ~~Belgrade~~, with a connecting train that splits in Niš with one half going to Sofia and the other half going to Skopje. There is also one train per day from ~~Belgrade~~ to Thessaloniki, but it isn’t synchronised with the train from Budapest.		There are two trains per day from Budapest to Beograd (one of them coming from Praha), with a connecting train that splits in Niš with one half going to Sofia and the other half going to Skopje. There is also one train per day from Beograd to Thessaloniki, but it isn’t synchronised with the train from Budapest. Search the connections on [http://w3.srbrail.rs/zsredvoznje/?lang=en Serbian Railways]. The train from Praha/Budapest to Beograd takes bikes (but they have to be reserved), all connecting trains from Beograd officially don’t, but it is likely that it is still possible somehow.

	[http://www.florentiabus.it/eng/firenze-sofia.asp Florentia Bus] offers a coach from Firenze to Sofia via Trieste, Ljubljana, Zagreb and Belgrade that apparently takes bikes.		[http://www.florentiabus.it/eng/firenze-sofia.asp Florentia Bus] offers a coach from Firenze to Sofia via Trieste, Ljubljana, Zagreb and Belgrade that apparently takes bikes.
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	[http://www.florentiabus.it/eng/firenze-sofia.asp Florentia Bus] offers a coach from Firenze to Sofia via Trieste, Ljubljana, Zagreb and Belgrade that apparently takes bikes.		[http://www.florentiabus.it/eng/firenze-sofia.asp Florentia Bus] offers a coach from Firenze to Sofia via Trieste, Ljubljana, Zagreb and Belgrade that apparently takes bikes.

	There are two trains per day from Beograd to Sofia.		There are two trains per day from Beograd to Sofia. They don’t officially take bikes, but it might still be possible.

	=== Niš ===		=== Niš ===

			There are several trains per day from Beograd. Officially they don’t take bikes, but it might still be possible somehow. The journey takes 4 to 6 hours and costs around 10 euros.

	=== Priština ===		=== Priština ===

			Getting into Kosovo by train is complicated. There are two daily trains from Kraljevo in Serbia to Mitrovica, about 40 km north of Priština. There is only one train per day from Beograd to Kraljevo, and you will have to spend 6½ hours at night in Kraljevo to wait for the train to Mitrovica. Taking a bike is officially not allowed, but might still be possible somehow.

			Getting there by coach also seems to be complicated. Eurolines offers a [http://www.eurolines.de/en/international-bus-lines/fahrplaene/buslinien-deutschland-kosovo/ line] from Germany, but they don’t take bikes and you cannot book it online. There are apparently coaches from Macedonia, Albania and Montenegro.

	=== Skopje ===		=== Skopje ===

			There are two trains per day from Beograd to Skopje. They don’t officially take bikes, but it might still be possible.

	=== Thessaloniki ===		=== Thessaloniki ===

			There is one train per day from Beograd to Thessaloniki. It doesn’t officially take bikes, but it might still be possible. It is not very well-scheduled with other trains arriving in Beograd.

	=== Athens ===		=== Athens ===

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	=== Sofia ===		=== Sofia ===

			[http://www.florentiabus.it/eng/firenze-sofia.asp Florentia Bus] offers a coach from Firenze to Sofia via Trieste, Ljubljana, Zagreb and Belgrade that apparently takes bikes.

			There are two trains per day from Beograd to Sofia.

	=== Niš ===		=== Niš ===

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	In many countries of the Balkan area, trains generally don’t go any faster than 40 km/h, so coaches are faster but usually slightly more expensive. Trains are usually relatively cheap, so booking them last-minute at the station is still an acceptable option. For example, the standard fare from Zagreb to Sofia is about 50 euros.		In many countries of the Balkan area, trains generally don’t go any faster than 40 km/h, so coaches are faster but usually slightly more expensive. Trains are usually relatively cheap, so booking them last-minute at the station is still an acceptable option. For example, the standard fare from Zagreb to Sofia is about 50 euros.

	~~(Todo: Write something about~~ the ~~Balkan pass~~. ~~Maybe~~ find ~~a map of train~~/~~bus lines in~~ the ~~Balkan region)~~		There is a ticket called the “Balkan Flexi Pass” that enables you to take all the trains in Romania, Serbia, Bosnia, Macedonia, Greece, Turkey, Montenegro on a certain number of days within one month. Only people who are not residents of those countries can buy the ticket. Online you usually only find the 1st class ticket, which is more expensive, but if you buy it at the counter, you can also get the 2nd class ticket. On [http://www.serbianrailways.com/active/en/home/glavna_navigacija/putnicki_saobracaj/medjunarodni_saobracaj/cene_prevoza_v01.html Serbian Railways], you can find the prices. A ticket that is valid on 5 days within 30 days costs 53 Euros for people up to 25 years old and 88 Euros for everyone else.

	== Getting from and to individual places the Biketour passes ==		== Getting from and to individual places the Biketour passes ==