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This workshop was held on a rest day towards the end of bt 2011 in a beautiful place by the lake. I wanted to get some feedback about the tour and hear what people had to say about making the next year (2012) even better. Valentina has written a summary of her experiences helping to organise the tour which you can find [[Valentina%27s_Report_of_BT_2011_-_Italia|here]]. There were about 16 people participating and while we covered a lot we missed out some points as the other discussions took longer than I anticipated (as they always do!. We wrote on scraps of card which I took [http://www.ecotopiabiketour.net/g/main.php?g2_itemId=30541 photos] of, here is what we did/talked about: | |||
==Workshop agenda== | ==Workshop agenda== | ||
(For ideas about running workshops visit our [[Consensus#Tools|tools]] section) | |||
*Intro to EVS and current route thoughts (5 mins-Alice) | *Intro to EVS and current route thoughts (5 mins-Alice) | ||
*What have you enjoyed? [[active listening exercise]]& feedback to group (15mins) | *What have you enjoyed? [[Consensus#Tools active listening|exercise]] & feedback to group (15mins) | ||
*What have you found difficult? [[active listening exercise]]& feedback to group (15mins) | *What have you found difficult? [[Consensus#Tools|active listening exercise]] & feedback to group (15mins) | ||
*More details of the proposal (5 mins-Alice) | *More details of the proposal (5 mins-Alice) | ||
*What would you like to see next year? [[brainstorm]] in 4 groups (15mins) | *What would you like to see next year? [[Consensus#Tools|brainstorm]] in 4 groups (15mins) | ||
*Feedback (15mins) | *Feedback (15mins) | ||
*Degrowth theme + comments (10mins) | *Degrowth theme + comments (10mins) | ||
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*Winter meeting agenda | *Winter meeting agenda | ||
*Paperwork and BT 2013 | *Paperwork and BT 2013 | ||
==What have you enjoyed?== | |||
*Lots of new ideas and learning from other people's experiences | |||
*A chance to live in a community/family | |||
*Good to meet people from other countries and network projects | |||
*New ideas of nature | |||
*Nice places to see | |||
*New things each day | |||
*It's affordable | |||
*There is a good group dynamic, nice atmosphere and love | |||
*Learning lots about food | |||
*Good discussions | |||
*A place for experiential learning | |||
*It gives you space to think | |||
*Cycling! Everyday :-) | |||
*A welcome break from normal life | |||
*A challenge - long distance and hills | |||
*Ice cream/hot springs | |||
==What have you found difficult?== | |||
*Workshops don't happen - some people are less motivated | |||
*Not enough time made for discussion | |||
*Responsibilities are not always clear | |||
*Stressful at times (can be positive) - lots of pressure on organisers | |||
*Circles are hard | |||
*Decisions take a long time/not consensus | |||
*Not a good balance of personal/group time | |||
*Consensus difficult | |||
*Hard to be part of group/self time/cycling time | |||
*Strong different opinions too much of the time | |||
*Fast/slow cyclist division | |||
*We are too rushed | |||
*Communication is unclear which leads to misunderstandings | |||
*Not enough workshops | |||
*Loose lot of time on waiting for people, loose lots of energy | |||
*Food takes a long time - shopping/preparing | |||
*People need to be more flexible | |||
*Language barriers are difficult, it's hard to be included | |||
*Not enough communication | |||
*We go too fast past beautiful places | |||
*We are always late, we should stick to a better schedule | |||
==What would you like to see next year?== | |||
===Route=== | |||
*Have a clear route & photocopy for all (this way you don't loose energy planning the route) | |||
*Maps for all! | |||
*Fixed resting days | |||
*Make good BT road markings | |||
*Prepare the route in advance | |||
*Focus on getting to know the area | |||
*50km average 30-80km/day | |||
===Activities=== | |||
*More time for activities/workshops | |||
*Some days of cycling, some days of woofing | |||
*Visit more farms/associations/workshops/conferences/national parks | |||
*More workshops cause everyone knows special things | |||
*Visit festivals | |||
*Show films/talks | |||
*Stay longer in places to help | |||
*Speak about hospitality - don't abuse it | |||
*Find lots of contacts along the way | |||
*Be more active with the topic on the road | |||
*More direct action | |||
*Contact local groups | |||
*Small ecotopia at the final spot | |||
===group dynamics=== | |||
*Clarify visions at the beginning | |||
*Not be a group of tourists, focus on ecology and the current theme | |||
*There should a new arrival person (tell new people about bt & what has happened) to prevent misunderstandings | |||
*Be better at introducing new people to the group | |||
*Try and be more of a group | |||
*Be clear what tasks there are to do | |||
*Have circle time to get to know each other better | |||
*Be more of a community | |||
*Have more time for the group | |||
*Be more aware of fast/slow people | |||
*Be more aware of language needs | |||
*More games! | |||
===Decision making=== | |||
*Agree ground rules | |||
*Agree on a routine - up at 7am/8am, siesta etc. | |||
*Explain the [[Consensus#What_is_Consensus.3F|consensus process]] to new people | |||
*Improve consensus method (smaller groups?) | |||
*Circles day each day - obligatory! | |||
*Communicate announcements at each circle | |||
===Food=== | |||
*Have a shopping plan, only once a day | |||
*Eat food at the right time, eat better, be clearer what food we buy - NO MEAT! | |||
===Money=== | |||
*1 person should take care of finances | |||
*Make it more affordable | |||
===Publicity/communication=== | |||
*Make sure that the website (FB, twitter etc) is updated - who does this? | |||
*Advertise in countries in BT is not so well known | |||
===Other=== | |||
*Trailer, get a new trailer? | |||
*Have better awareness of road safety - crossroads, rules of the country | |||
*Get insurance for the group or suggest that people get their own | |||
==Degrowth theme== | |||
*People were happy with the theme | |||
*We need a good explanation/introduction prepared (as it's not very commonly known) | |||
*We need a balance between theory and practice | |||
*It would be good to be able to explain it in a creative way | |||
*Focus on the practical things about degrowth (use a DIY shower system, skill shares for example) | |||
*Build a rocket stove for the tour when we meet | |||
==Location/route== | ==Location/route== | ||
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*Camp along the canal in cevennes & Arrigas in the south of France | *Camp along the canal in cevennes & Arrigas in the south of France | ||
*Contact Ecologistas in | *Contact Ecologistas in accion | ||
[[Category:Biketour 2011]] [[Category:Biketour 2012]] [[Category:Evaluation]] |
Latest revision as of 09:13, 22 December 2015
This workshop was held on a rest day towards the end of bt 2011 in a beautiful place by the lake. I wanted to get some feedback about the tour and hear what people had to say about making the next year (2012) even better. Valentina has written a summary of her experiences helping to organise the tour which you can find here. There were about 16 people participating and while we covered a lot we missed out some points as the other discussions took longer than I anticipated (as they always do!. We wrote on scraps of card which I took photos of, here is what we did/talked about:
Workshop agenda
(For ideas about running workshops visit our tools section)
- Intro to EVS and current route thoughts (5 mins-Alice)
- What have you enjoyed? exercise & feedback to group (15mins)
- What have you found difficult? active listening exercise & feedback to group (15mins)
- More details of the proposal (5 mins-Alice)
- What would you like to see next year? brainstorm in 4 groups (15mins)
- Feedback (15mins)
- Degrowth theme + comments (10mins)
- Ideas for specific locations (direct people to wiki)
Items on agenda mentioned but not covered (ran out of time:
- Local coordinator call out
- Decision making and consensus on email lists
- Winter meeting agenda
- Paperwork and BT 2013
What have you enjoyed?
- Lots of new ideas and learning from other people's experiences
- A chance to live in a community/family
- Good to meet people from other countries and network projects
- New ideas of nature
- Nice places to see
- New things each day
- It's affordable
- There is a good group dynamic, nice atmosphere and love
- Learning lots about food
- Good discussions
- A place for experiential learning
- It gives you space to think
- Cycling! Everyday :-)
- A welcome break from normal life
- A challenge - long distance and hills
- Ice cream/hot springs
What have you found difficult?
- Workshops don't happen - some people are less motivated
- Not enough time made for discussion
- Responsibilities are not always clear
- Stressful at times (can be positive) - lots of pressure on organisers
- Circles are hard
- Decisions take a long time/not consensus
- Not a good balance of personal/group time
- Consensus difficult
- Hard to be part of group/self time/cycling time
- Strong different opinions too much of the time
- Fast/slow cyclist division
- We are too rushed
- Communication is unclear which leads to misunderstandings
- Not enough workshops
- Loose lot of time on waiting for people, loose lots of energy
- Food takes a long time - shopping/preparing
- People need to be more flexible
- Language barriers are difficult, it's hard to be included
- Not enough communication
- We go too fast past beautiful places
- We are always late, we should stick to a better schedule
What would you like to see next year?
Route
- Have a clear route & photocopy for all (this way you don't loose energy planning the route)
- Maps for all!
- Fixed resting days
- Make good BT road markings
- Prepare the route in advance
- Focus on getting to know the area
- 50km average 30-80km/day
Activities
- More time for activities/workshops
- Some days of cycling, some days of woofing
- Visit more farms/associations/workshops/conferences/national parks
- More workshops cause everyone knows special things
- Visit festivals
- Show films/talks
- Stay longer in places to help
- Speak about hospitality - don't abuse it
- Find lots of contacts along the way
- Be more active with the topic on the road
- More direct action
- Contact local groups
- Small ecotopia at the final spot
group dynamics
- Clarify visions at the beginning
- Not be a group of tourists, focus on ecology and the current theme
- There should a new arrival person (tell new people about bt & what has happened) to prevent misunderstandings
- Be better at introducing new people to the group
- Try and be more of a group
- Be clear what tasks there are to do
- Have circle time to get to know each other better
- Be more of a community
- Have more time for the group
- Be more aware of fast/slow people
- Be more aware of language needs
- More games!
Decision making
- Agree ground rules
- Agree on a routine - up at 7am/8am, siesta etc.
- Explain the consensus process to new people
- Improve consensus method (smaller groups?)
- Circles day each day - obligatory!
- Communicate announcements at each circle
Food
- Have a shopping plan, only once a day
- Eat food at the right time, eat better, be clearer what food we buy - NO MEAT!
Money
- 1 person should take care of finances
- Make it more affordable
Publicity/communication
- Make sure that the website (FB, twitter etc) is updated - who does this?
- Advertise in countries in BT is not so well known
Other
- Trailer, get a new trailer?
- Have better awareness of road safety - crossroads, rules of the country
- Get insurance for the group or suggest that people get their own
Degrowth theme
- People were happy with the theme
- We need a good explanation/introduction prepared (as it's not very commonly known)
- We need a balance between theory and practice
- It would be good to be able to explain it in a creative way
- Focus on the practical things about degrowth (use a DIY shower system, skill shares for example)
- Build a rocket stove for the tour when we meet
Location/route
- Allow lots of time, always better to plan more time
- 2.5 months is too long, 2 months is lots of time
- It's good to have a long tour, it can start early for people that can't normally make it
- It's a long way for a 'degrowth' topic
- I don't like the idea of boat as it won't be a sailing boat, it's like taking a bus
- It's important that people stay a minimum of 2 weeks as it's a process
- Booklet should be emailed to all participants before + copies printed
Ideas for specific locations (added to route map)
- Camp along the canal in cevennes & Arrigas in the south of France
- Contact Ecologistas in accion