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== Brainstorming Map ==
== Brainstorming Map ==


Here there is a googlemap to share interesting projects/places/actions/camps/etc that you might think biketour could visit this year: http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msid=202614598037844903493.0004b87154a1e6e346552&msa=0
Here there is a googlemap to share interesting projects/places/actions/camps/etc that you might think biketour could visit this year. This is now really full of great projects but we will always be looking for more contacts so please add to this: http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msid=202614598037844903493.0004b87154a1e6e346552&msa=0


== Route Maps on G$$gle ==
== Sleeping Places Map ==
Here is a map to give you an idea of where we will be each day. Sometimes camping spots are not in exactly the right location so contact the tour to find out where we are if you are joining us!
Green pin- location confirmed
Green balloon - contact confirmed, location TBA
Blue - rough area, nothing confirmed
Blue pin - exact location confirmed, need to confirm we are welcome
 
https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msid=203792359271441496529.0004c3865329d9324382e&msa=0&ll=45.073521,6.965332&spn=9.448627,19.753418


The route till now is based mostly on google maps and some information got on the web, they will still change when we get access to proper maps and some parts need to be checked in person (mostly the crossing from Gap to Torino).


* [http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?vps=73&hl=en&ie=UTF8&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=202614598037844903493.0004bd4ffb1791c8a92f0 Barcelona -> Girona -> Cerbere]
== Detailed maps ==
* [http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?vps=72&hl=en&ie=UTF8&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=202614598037844903493.0004bd5083ebe56957026 Cerbere -> Narbone -> Montpellier]
* [http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?vps=2&hl=en&ie=UTF8&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=202614598037844903493.0004bd50b581f166de15b Montpellier -> Avignon] (not direct route - going north near Cévennes National Park)
* [http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=202614598037844903493.0004bd525a243b67d2865 Avignon -> Marseille - Éourres] (end part seems a bit hilly for no reason, maybe we can go around by Sisteron)
* [http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=202614598037844903493.0004bd52858cc6162284c Éourres -> Gap -> Torino] (crossing the alpes need more investigation - probably on the cyclocamp alice and joão will try to cycle this part - it still looks like we could try to go in valleys instead of crossing so many hills)
*[http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msid=202614598037844903493.0004bd52f6fe40b63feca&msa=0 Torino -> Bologna]
*[http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msid=202614598037844903493.0004bf0a4c1a8aba8e6b7&msa=0 Bologna -> Venice]


We manage to arranged some detailed [[maps]] for the route each area (Catalonia, France, Italy) has a diferent zoom and quality, we tried to get detailed enough maps and minimize the number of maps, ended up with 32 diferent maps for the whole route separated in 3 different ZIP files for each area.
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![http://www.ecotopiabiketour.net/share/bt_2012/maps-catalonia.zip Catalonia] !! !! [http://www.ecotopiabiketour.net/share/bt_2012/maps-france.zip France] !!  !! [http://www.ecotopiabiketour.net/share/bt_2012/maps-italy.zip Italy] !! 
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== Start details (To Be Confirmed) ==
== Day by Day plan ==
===6-9th July Biketour preparation weekend at Can Masdeu===
*6th July - Meet at Can Masdeu, cook together, critical mass(get ready in calle princesa), fiesta
*7th July - Pimp my bike day (in l'astilla or biciosxs)
*8th Social day at Can Masdeu, build rocket stove, degrowth workshop, movie screening
*9th BIKETOUR BEGINS


=== Day by day rough plan ===
THIS ROUTE IS NOT FINAL, IT WILL STILL CHANGE!!!
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The tour begins on 9th July and ends on 16th September, making '''70 days''' in total  
The tour begins on 9th July and ends on 16th September, making '''70 days''' in total  
*(23 days in July, 31 days in August & 16 days in September)
*(23 days in July, 31 days in August & 16 days in September)
This rough route shows 53 days accounted for, leaving 17 rest/action days.  
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==6-9th July Biketour preparation weekend at Can Masdeu (Barcelona)==
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* (5th July - go to Can Masdeu, set up shade water etc.)
*'''6th July''' - Meet at Can Masdeu, cook together, set up camp and get ready for critical mass, leave Can Masdeu at 7pm for to arrive 8pm critical mass, Arc de Triomf (or get ready in calle Princesa)
*'''7th July''' - Fall in love with your bike day 12-3pm at [http://www.biciclot.net/ Biciclot], shared comida, basic bike maintenance and getting ready for the road 
*'''8th July''' Deggrowth Biketour Open day at Can Masdeu 11.00h-18.00h, build rocket stove, degrowth workshop, movie screening
*'''9th July BIKETOUR BEGINS'''
For more details visit [[preparation weekend 2012]]
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=== Catalonia ===
=== Catalonia ===


* '''6-9th July''' Can Masdeu
* '''6-9 July''' Barcelona
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'''Host:''' [http://www.canmasdeu.net/ Can Masdeu]
 
See: [[preparation weekend 2012]]
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* '''9 July''' Can Masdeu > Kan Pasqual
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'''Host:''' [http://kanpasqual.ourproject.org/ Kan Pascual]
 
'''Activity:'''Bicicletada en defensa de Collserola i contra Eurovegas (Bikeride in defence of Collserola mountain and against Eurovegas)
*10h. Leave from Can Masdeu
*12h. Meet Vallvidrera, Pl. Mont d'Orsà (where we find out more information about the two struggles).
*14h. Open lunch at Kan Pasqual (people need to bring something to share)
 
'''Distance:''' 20km
 
'''Notes:''' Also a time for last bike adjustments
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* '''10th July''' Barcelona > Vallbona d'Anoia
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'''Host:''' [http://cooperativa.cat/ Ca l'afou]
 
'''Activity:''' On the way cycle via LLobregat Delta for EuroVegas Action & Visit [http://www.calrosset.com/ Can
Rosset], Camille's food coop
 
'''Distance:''' 90km
 
'''Notes:'''(perhaps take off a day here and stay a day in Terrassa instead?)
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* '''11th July''' Ca l'afou (Vallbona d'Anoia)
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'''Host:''' [http://cooperativa.cat/ Ca l'afou]
 
'''Activity:''' Work day
 
'''Distance:''' 0km
 
'''Notes:'''
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* '''12th July''' Ca l'afou (Vallbona d'Anoia)
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'''Host:''' [http://cooperativa.cat/ Ca l'afou]
 
'''Activity:''' Work day
 
'''Distance:''' 0km
 
'''Notes:'''
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* '''13 July''' Vallbona d'Anoia > La Llagosta, Barcelona
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'''Host:''' [http://www.canpiella.cat/ Can Piella]
 
'''Activity:''' we could try to go to [http://www.panoramio.com/photo/47449937 Can Tobella] for Lunch on the way? - maybe a bit too up hill for just a short lunch visit. Fiesta.
 
'''Distance:''' 60km
 
'''Notes:'''
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* '''14 July''' La Llagosta, Barcelona
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'''Host:''' [http://www.canpiella.cat/ Can Piella]
 
'''Distance:''' 0Km
 
'''Notes:''' Work day
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* '''15 July''' La Llagosta > San pol de mar
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'''Host:''' through Iago
 
'''Activity:''' Iago - Artist friend of Francois is helping to organise a Degrowth and poetry evening
 
'''Distance:''' 47km
 
'''Notes:'''
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* '''16 July''' San pol de mar > Sant Feliu de Guixols(?)
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'''Host:''' Free camp
 
'''Activity:''' we could do an action at Tossa De Mar [http://www.jornal.cat/noticia/35763/naturalistes-de-girona-diu-que-el-projecte-de-port-esportiu-a-tossa-de-mar-destruira-un-de against construction] if we can contact [http://naturalistesgirona.org/index.php Naturalists Girona] - Not succecuful till now
*Information about a nice bicycle route through an old train line from  SANT FELIU DE GUÍXOLS to girona http://www.hyparion.com/web/informacio/turistica/rutesBTT/gironastfeliu.htm
 
'''Distance:''' 54km
 
'''Notes:'''
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* '''17 July''' Sant Feliu de Guixols > Girona
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'''Host:''' Kan Rusk (contact through Kan Kolmo)
 
'''Activity:''' Contact with [http://www.nomat.org/ NO MAT] strugle and people from the old forest protest site [http://desdelsboscos.blogspot.com] Bike workshop in Kan Kolmo[http://kankolmotxirona.blogspot.com Kan Kolmo]
 
'''Distance:''' 37km
 
'''Notes:'''
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* '''18 July''' Girona > Crespia
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'''Host:''' Can Prim
 
'''Activity:''' Build compost toilet 5pm
 
'''Distance:''' 30km
 
'''Notes:''' Invite Nuria to come and join us
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* '''19 July''' Crespia > San Climent Sescebes, Espolla - (need to check the exact place!)
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'''Host:''' [http://www.cantorres.blogspot.com.es/ Can Torres] - an organic wine farm
 
'''Activity:''' Lunch in figueres on the way. Meet in the market between 12-1pm for the Verd meeting. Food made in squat social centre 'El Taller'
 
Say hi to Can Torrent (Okupa)?
 
'''Distance:''' 30km
 
'''Notes:'''
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=== France ===
 
* '''20th July''' San Climent Sescebes > Cerbere
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'''Host:'''[http://decreixementacampadabcn.wordpress.com/can-decreix-3/ Can Decreix]
 
'''Activity:''' Fiesta
 
'''Distance:''' 40km
 
'''Notes:''' Food drop?
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* '''21st July''' Cerbere
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'''Host:'''[http://decreixementacampadabcn.wordpress.com/can-decreix-3/ Can Decreix]
 
'''Activity:''' work/rest
 
'''Distance:''' 0km
 
'''Notes:''' Catch up on contacts and internet
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* '''22 July''' Cerbere > Perpignan
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'''Host:''' Accomodation and action is organised by the association of cyclists vélo en têt, http://veloentet.free.fr"
 
'''Activity:''' meet at the beach on the north of Villneuve de la raho lake at 4pm, critical mass to Perpignan, 6pm in Perpignan we meet at 'Arago' by the statue for a critical mass in the city. Accomodation and action is organised by the association of cyclists vélo en têt, http://veloentet.free.fr"
 
'''Distance:''' 50km
 
'''Notes:'''
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* '''23 July''' Perpignan >  Sigean
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'''Host:''' Laurence can receive us in their camping, in Sigean, Port la Nouvelle area (contact of Kasia and francois)
 
'''Activity:''' Potential anti- palm oil action
 
'''Distance:''' 48km
 
'''Notes:'''
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* '''24th July''' Sigean > Minerve
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'''Host:''' [http://www.cravirola.com/ Cravirola le maquis]
 
'''Activity:'''
 
'''Distance:''' 55km
 
'''Notes:''' If we want to stay here then we would need to book and pay, group to decide
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* '''25th July'''  Minerve
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'''Host:''' [http://www.cravirola.com/ Cravirola le maquis]
 
'''Activity:''' RELAX
 
'''Distance:''' 0km
 
'''Notes:''' If we want to stay here then we would need to book and pay, group to decide
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* '''26 July''' Minerve > Béziers (?)
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'''Host:''' Possible contact through Luham, house here with nice library
 
'''Activity:'''
 
'''Distance:''' 50km
 
'''Notes:''' No contacts here yet...
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* '''27 July''' Bézier > Sète/Frontignan (?)
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'''Host:'''
 
'''Activity:'''
 
'''Distance:''' 50km
 
'''Notes:''' No contacts confirmed here yet...
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* '''28 July''' Sète/Frontignan > Montpellier
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'''Host:'''
 
'''Activity:'''
 
'''Distance:''' 22km
 
'''Notes:''' alex vieuxbiclou (only mobilephone contact)
squat de marou 34 (castle) (only phone contact- contact of a house in montpleir that has contact with the squat)
Marou - Causse de la selle - 34380 Chemin-de-Marou
old news: http://old.squat.net/fr/news/marou300809.html
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* '''29 July''' Montpellier > Pompignan (?)
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'''Host:'''
 
'''Activity:'''
 
'''Distance:''' 40km
 
'''Notes:'''
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* '''30 July''' Pompignan > Sant Jean du Gard, Cevennes, La Borie
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'''Host:''' Potentially La Borie
 
'''Activity:''' finding out about the Cevennes
 
'''Distance:''' 35km
 
'''Notes:''' '''if we don't hear back  from them we could go to vallette directly and have a rest day there''' eijamin says it's possible to just appear probably
 
http://www.pierreseche.net/laborie.htm
http://ecolieuxdefrance.free.fr/LES_SITES/Ecosite_la_Borie.htm
info quiosque in the same village: http://infokiosques.net/bibliotheque152
 
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* '''31 July''' Sant Jean du Gard > La Valette, Robiac-Rochessadoule
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'''Host:''' Potentially (near la [http://collectif.valette.free.fr/ vielle Valette])
 
'''Activity:'''
 
'''Distance:''' 35km
 
'''Notes:'''
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* '''1st August''' Robiac-Rochessadoule > Berrias-et-Casteljau
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'''Host:'''
 
'''Activity:''' Visit to the school at 5pm (would cost 50€) [http://www.la-ferme-des-enfants.com/ Le Hameau de bois/la ferme des enfants]
 
'''Distance:''' 25km
 
'''Notes:''' if no response could stay at VV longer or move on towards the gorges
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* '''2nd August'''
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'''Host:''' Find camping spot
 
'''Activity:''' Rest day [http://www.gorgesdelardeche.fr/reserve-naturelle.php réserve naturelle des gorges de l'ardèche]
 
'''Distance:''' 0km/25km (70km between Berrias-et-casteljau and Valaurie)
 
'''Notes:''' Look into fun stuff
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* '''3rd August''' Near Saint-Marcel-d'Ardèche > Valaurie
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'''Host:''' [http://faisanderie-berre.monsite-orange.fr/ Faisanderie de la Berre]
 
'''Activity:'''
 
'''Distance:''' (70km between Berrias-et-casteljau and Valaurie)
 
'''Notes:'''
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* '''4th August''' Valaurie > Avignon
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'''Host:'''
 
'''Activity:''' meet the serious bean project :-)
 
'''Distance:''' 65km
 
'''Notes:''' Need to find host
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* '''5th August''' Avignon
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'''Host:'''
 
'''Activity:'''
 
'''Distance:''' 0km
 
'''Notes:'''Try and meet [http://roulonsavelo.free.fr/ Roulons à velo]
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* '''6th August''' Avignon > Arles
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'''Host:''' maybe Longo mai, la Mas de Granier or through friend of Filka if this doesn't work
 
'''Activity:'''
 
'''Distance:''' 50km (along the river)
 
'''Notes:''' look for a cycle path along the river¨! Les Baux-de-Provence is really pretty says Seb
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* '''7th August''' Arles > Fos-sur-mere
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'''Host:'''
 
'''Activity:''' There is a small airport here, possible ZAD solidarity action
 
'''Distance:''' 30km
 
'''Notes:''' Possible detour via nice [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camargue park naturel de camargue]
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* '''8th August''' Fos-sur-mere > Marseille
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'''Host:''' Velo Marseille workshop [http://www.velo-marseille.com/ collective velo-en-ville]
 
'''Activity:''' Possible link to anti - water finacialisation campaign
 
'''Distance:''' 50km
 
'''Notes:'''
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* '''9th August''' Marseille
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'''Host:'''
 
'''Activity:'''
 
'''Distance:''' 0km
 
'''Notes:'''
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* '''10th August - 11th August ''' Marseille >  Vaucluse
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'''Host:''' Longo Mai - Cabrery
 
'''Activity:''' Possible work day
 
'''Distance:''' 65km
 
'''Notes:''' Not cot confirmed whether we will stay here or Eourres for two nights
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* '''12th August''' Vaucluse > somewhere in the middle (Banon ?)
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'''Host:'''
 
'''Activity:'''
 
'''Distance:''' 35km
 
'''Notes:'''
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* '''13th August''' Banon > Éourres
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'''Host:''' [http://www.eourres.fr/ Éourres Village]
 
'''Activity:''' Link with [http://sensetautonomie.wordpress.com/ Sens et autonomie]
 
'''Distance:''' 30km
 
'''Notes:''' It has not been decided whether we stay here two days or in Longo mai - C. Take a day from here if needed)
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* '''14th August''' Éourres
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'''Host:''' [http://www.eourres.fr/ Éourres Village]
 
'''Activity:'''
 
'''Distance:''' 0km
 
'''Notes:'''
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* '''15th August''' Éourres > somewhere on the way to Gap
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'''Host:'''
 
'''Activity:'''
 
'''Distance:'''(120km from Éourres to SLEB)
 
'''Notes:'''
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* '''16th August''' Somewhere on the way to Gap > Somewhere past Gap
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'''Host:'''
 
'''Activity:'''
 
'''Distance:'''(120km from Éourres to SLEB)
 
'''Notes:''' till gap is more or less flat (the end is going up till gap around 12km up) after gap 20km going up (the end is hard [but possible]) then it's going down almost till SLEB
 
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* '''17th - 21st August''' Somewhere past Gap > Saint-Laurent-en-Beaumont
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'''Host:''' [http://tilia.canalblog.com/ L'Ecolieu Tilia & Compagnie]
 
'''Activity:''' Help with house build
 
'''Distance:''' 0km
 
'''Notes:'''
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'''WARNING: WE HAVE NOT LOOKED IN DETAIL AT THE ALPS CROSSING SO THE NEXT DAYS ARE LIKELY TO CHANGE A BIT'''
 
check if there is a tunnel from briançon to susa and if there is a way to cross by public transport (there is a bus that can take bikes from briançon to montgenevre)
 
* '''22nd August''' Saint-Laurent-en-Beaumont > ? (cordeac or abit more)
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'''Host:'''
 
'''Activity:'''
 
'''Distance:''' 50km
 
'''Notes:''' there is a house project called kraken (mens, france) trying to make things without money (contact caro)
it's a bit longer but quieter roa'in Cordeac there is also a house where we could maybe stay and this way we could do a way back to gap from a diferent path... contact in cardeac: laurence contact of caro from a femenist library) - we have phone number
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* '''23rd August''' (cordeac or abit more) ? > ?
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'''Host:'''
 
'''Activity:'''
 
'''Distance:''' 60km
 
'''Notes:''' we should try to pass the big lake (or even embrum) the day after to briançon will be hard
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* '''24rd August''' ? > Briançon
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'''Host:''' Longo Mai - Chantemerle
 
'''Activity:'''
 
'''Distance:''' 40km
 
'''Notes:''' 
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===Italy===
 
* '''25th August''' Briançon > Susa, Val di Susa
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'''Host:''' NO TAV or another potential host in Chimonte (contact Valentina friend of Fede)
 
'''Activity:''' Action in solidarity with [http://www.notav.info/ NO TAV] sruggle
 
'''Distance:''' 65km (first 15km are going to be (really) hard, then it's all going down
 
'''Notes:''' we need to check also bus from bus briançon to oulx (just 40 km) for people that don't feel like crossing the alps)...or if traffic is too crazy...We could make a proposal to do a presentation in Chimonte if we like.
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* '''26th August''' Day in Susa
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'''Host:'''
 
'''Activity:'''
 
'''Notes:'''
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* '''27th August''' Susa > Collegno, Torino,
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'''Host:''' Mezcal squat


* '''9th July''' Kan Pascual - time for last bike adjustments
'''Activity:'''  


* '''10-12th July''' Ca l'afou (perhaps take off a day here and stay a day in Terrassa instead?)
'''Distance:''' 45km


13th Can Piella (Can Tobella for Lunch?)
'''Notes:'''
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14th Near San pol de mar (?)
* '''28th August''' Torino/collegno
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'''Host:''' Mezcal


15th Tossa de Mar (action against construction if we can contact Naturalists Girona)
'''Activity:''' Possible link with Degrowth association in Torino (<jean.84@libero.it>)


16th Rest day?
'''Distance:''' 0km


17th Girona - contact Kan Kolmo
'''Notes:'''
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18th Escala/somewhere on coast
* '''29th August''' Collegno > Pinerolo
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'''Host:''' [http://www.ett.it/it/00002/page.html Casa Gaia]


Figueres action (?)
'''Activity:''' Environmental think tank


19th Can Torres
'''Distance:''' 40km


20th-21st Can Decreix - work/rest
'''Notes:'''
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22nd Near Canet-en-Roussillon/Perpignan (?)
* '''30th August''' Pinerolo > Somewhere around Asti
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'''Host:'''


23rd Near Port la nouvelle/Gruissan (?)
'''Activity:'''


24-25th Cravirola le maquis, Minerve - rest day
'''Distance:''' ~70km


26th Béziers (?)
'''Notes:'''
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27th Sète (?)
* '''31st August''' somewhere around Asti > Montale Celli, Costa Vescovato, 
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'''Host:''' [http://www.valliunite.com/ Coop. Agricola Valli Unite]


28th Montpellier
'''Activity:'''


Pompignan (?)
'''Distance:''' ~70km


Rousson (near la vielle Valette)
'''Notes:''' We arrive this day which is the first day of our helping with the festival :-)
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Berrias-et-Casteljau (Le Hameau de bois/la ferme des enfants)
* '''1st September''' Valli Unite, Montale Celli
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'''Host:''' [http://www.valliunite.com/ Coop. Agricola Valli Unite] 


Vals-les-Bains (?)
'''Activity:''' Helping with Vendemmia (the grape harvesting festival) see [http://www.valliunite.com/foto-festavendemmia-2010/index.html#slides/DSC06278.JPG photos from 2010] Maybe giving a biketour presentation


Longo Mai, Treynas ( Lachapelle-sous-Chanéac)
'''Distance:''' 0km


Near Saulce-sur-Rhône (?)
'''Notes:'''
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Near Saint-Marcel-d'Ardèche (?)
* '''2nd September'''
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'''Host:''' Valli Unite, Montale Celli


Avignon
'''Activity:''' Helping with Vendemmia (the grape harvesting festival) see [http://www.valliunite.com/foto-festavendemmia-2010/index.html#slides/DSC06278.JPG photos from 2010]


Arles (maybe Longo mai, la Mas de Granier)
'''Distance:''' 0km


Foss-sur-mere (?)
'''Notes:''' Perhaps we need to cycle this day instead to leave time but it would be nice to stay.
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Marseille
* '''3rd September''' Montale Celli > near Castel San Giovanni
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'''Host:''' Free camp
 
'''Activity:'''
 
'''Distance:''' about 65km (this map shows a bike path: http://www.piste-ciclabili.com/comune-castel_san_giovanni)
 
'''Notes:''' Would be nice to cycle to http://www.granara.org/ but it might be a bit mad... the plan before was the flat direction towards reggio A but this would take us into the Alpennines...
 
the plan before was to follow the Po River, there are bicycle way most of it, from Castell San Giovanni to Reggio Emillia (Brescelo?)
 
gps maps here: http://www.movimentolento.it/it/resource/statictrack/la-ciclovia-del-po/
in detail: http://www.lecicloviedelpo.movimentolento.it/it/resource/tour/la-ciclovia-del/
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* '''4th September''' near Castel San Giovanni >
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'''Host:''' Free camp
 
'''Activity:''' Nature reserve http://www.villanovaparchi.it/ near where we would need to camp...
 
'''Distance:''' about 65km
 
'''Notes:'''
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* '''5th September'''  > Cavriago/ Reggio d'Amilia
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'''Host:''' [http://www.cooplacollina.it/ Organic farm La Collina] where we can stay in Cavriago- contact through Andrea. We also have contacts selini@icoor.it, Manuel Iori <manuel.iori@unimore.it>
 
'''Activity:''' in Reggio Amilia the mobility manager for the municipality, Meggiato, is keen to do a presentation about projects active in the area for an afternoon
 
'''Distance:''' 50/60km depending on where we are the night before Here is a map along the river: http://www.stradadelculatello.it/docs/cartina_biciparmaPo.PDF from Polesine direction Reggio Emilia, then towards Reggio Amilia:  http://www.piste-ciclabili.com/comune-guastalla
 
'''Notes:''' Perhaps some meeting this evening?
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* '''6th September''' Cavriago/Reggio d'Amilia > Bologna
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'''Host:''' [http://www.ecn.org/xm24/ XM24]
 
'''Activity:''' big squat with an organic market every Thursday. Also would be nice to link to [http://www.autistici.org/campiaperti/genuino-clandestino/ local productors.]
 
'''Distance:''' 70km
 
'''Notes:''' (this is the day where there is a big market in Bologna...)
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* '''7th September''' Bologna
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'''Host:'''
 
'''Activity:'''
 
'''Distance:''' 0km
 
'''Notes:'''  contacts in bologna: "Yuri Foschi (amppioraggio)" yuriski gmail.com, Lorenzo Betti <bettilorenzo gmail.com>, Giamba XM24 Bologna <giumba freemail.it>, ampioraggio inventati.org, Andrea Magnolini <magno_lini yahoo.it>
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* '''8th September''' Bologna
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'''Host:''' [http://www.ecn.org/xm24/ XM24]
 
'''Activity:'''[http://ampioraggio.contaminati.net/ Ciclofficina Ampioraggio] :-) Nice DIY workshop
 
'''Distance:''' 0km
 
'''Notes:'''
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Longo Mai - Cabrery (tbc)
* '''9th September''' Bologna 
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'''Host:''' [http://www.ecn.org/xm24/ XM24]


Eourres village
'''Activity:'''[http://ampioraggio.contaminati.net/ Ciclofficina Ampioraggio] :-) Nice DIY workshop


Oasis Bellecombe, La motte chalancon
'''Distance:''' 0km


Archiane, Treschenu-Creyers (?)
'''Notes:'''
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L'Ecolieu Tilia & Compagnie, Saint-Laurent-en-Beaumont
* '''10th September''' Bologna > Ozzano Emilia
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'''Host:''' Coop Dulcamara  (www.coopdulcamara.it)- via tolara di sopra 78


Chores (?)
'''Activity:''' Ecological farm, biodiversity- bio agricolture- alternative energies


Barcelonette (???) Which Alps crossing? (miss Longo Mai - Chantemerle)
'''Distance:''' 20km


Pietraporzio (?)
'''Notes:'''
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Madonna dell'Olmo, Cuneo (?)
* '''11th September''' Ozzano Emilia > Cesena
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'''Host:'''[http://www.tecnologieappropriate.it/forno.html Technologie Appropriate]Cesena via Germazzo 186


Pinerolo, Casa Gaia
'''Activity:''' Ecoistituto di cesena  biodiversity- bio agricolture- alternative energies- library on appropriate tecnologies- bio building- earth oven for pizza


Collegno, Torino, Mezcal squat
'''Distance:''' 77km


Val de susa
'''Notes:'''
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(Torino)
* '''12th September''' Cesena > Villanova di Bagnacavallo
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'''Host:''' Ecomuseo della civiltà Palustre(www.erbepalustri.it)


Rocchetta Tanaro (?) too long!
'''Activity:''' Association for preservig traditional jobs and culture


Montale Celli, Costa Vescovato, Coop. Agricola Valli Unite (?)
'''Distance:''' 50km


Stradella
'''Notes:'''
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Fidenza (?)
* '''13th September''' Villanova di Bagnacavallo (Erbe Palustre) > somewhere just before pomposa
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'''Host:''' Wild camping


Cavriago (?)
'''Activity:''' Abbazia di Pomposa very beatuful church of pelligrin, bosco della mesola (last traditional forest of padana plain)


Maranello (?)
'''Distance:''' 50km


Bologna :-)
'''Notes:'''
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Occhiobello (?)
* '''14th September''' somewhere just before Pomposa > Somewhere before Padova
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'''Host:''' Wild camping


Padova
'''Activity:''' Br-unch in Pomposa http://www.iricostruttori.com/ village reconstructed by hand


Mestre
'''Distance:''' 50km


16th-19th September Venice
'''Notes:'''
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== Rough date ranges (not up to date anymore, but still useful) ==
* '''15th September''' Somewhere before Padova > Padova
This is a first attempt at creating date ranges for the route. '''These dates will change a lot!!!'''
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'''Host:''' Orti in Padova with people from Reclaim the fields or through Matteo from [http://www.lamentecomune.it/ la mente comune]


The first date is the earliest, the second is the the upper limit, with lots of flexibility in the middle.
'''Activity:''' check out the squatted garden and visit reuse and remade workshop; furniture, clothes and bike workshop in a nice green space


*Barcelona  6th July      -15th July (we are pointing to the 12th of july to leave barcelona)
'''Distance:''' 50km
*Cerbère    14th July      -25th July
*Narbonne    19th July      -2nd August
*Montpelier  23th July      -7th August
*Marseille  31st July      -12th August
*Nice        10th August    -21st August
*Torino      21st August    -31st Ausust
*Milan      27th August    -4th September
*Bologna    7th September  -12th September
*Venice      15th September -19th September


The section from Marseille to Torino could take longer
'''Notes:'''
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there are this maps that yolanda found out:
* '''16th September''' Padova > Venice via Mestre (only 8km from Venice)
http://www.cyclingeurope.nl/provence
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'''Host:''' [http://www.fortepoeriomira.it/ Forte Poerio], in Mira (12km from Venice) contact through Rebecca.


many bicycle routes and tools to plan a bike route (need further investigation):
'''Activity:''' Critical mass with [http://www.stoporme.org/ No-AR] (No Autostrada - highway - Romea), a part of [http://www.infocat.it/ CAT]
http://www.provelo.org/spip.php?article2627


and there are GPX and GPD (gps standards) files there, this website is useful to visualize them: http://www.gpsvisualizer.com/
'''Distance:''' 40km


== Route Proposal with groups/actions ==
'''Notes:''' (http://spiazziverdi.blogspot.it/) isola della giudecca
association of bio agricolture and democratic participation in Venezia or Mestre (need to ask more info to andrea)
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The EV8 (EuroVelo Route 8) should be followed and we can make deviations from it to visit some projects and places: [http://www.rollglobal.org/2010/11/tourplanning/ informaton on EuroVelo]
* '''17th September'''
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'''Host:''' [http://www.fortepoeriomira.it/ Forte Poerio], in Mira (12km from Venice)


'''Activity:''' Party with [http://www.stoporme.org/ No Autostrada Romea] – (campaign to protect the Brenta Riviera and Miranese), chance to learn about local groups/campaigns. CELEBRATE


=== Catalunya ===
'''Distance:'''
Indignados 29th March Demo, public sector, housing, cuts,
Degrowth group of indignados
Fishing issues - Lydia
Iago - Artists of Catalunya


Ecologistas - Annalies to send projects, anti EuroVegas 17 billion euros budget, ghost towns
'''Notes:''' 
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Girona - contact Guillem
* '''18th September'''
MAT - Mucha Alta Tension (all around) near Girona there was a group but it was evicted
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'''Host:''' [http://www.fortepoeriomira.it/ Forte Poerio], in Mira (12km from Venice)


Ghost tourist towns
'''Activity:''' Something with WCN /Evaluation?
- development stopped


=== France ===
'''Distance:'''
Languedoc-roussillon


- Les reencontres Des amis de S!lence (http://amies.revuesilence.net/spip.php?article73)
'''Notes:'''  
a bit more north from foix, in Loubières, from 9 to 24 july  it's a self-managed camp, but besides that there is not much information, they were conected with the Camp Action Climate 2009 in Nantes - sounds great, it was the start of ZAD, but last year information don't look like an active/activist gathering but more a sharing information/workshops - probably 100% in french as it dosen't look like they plan ot make an international call-out
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Cerbere
* '''19th-23rd September Venice'''
Can Decreix
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'''Host:''' [http://www.fortepoeriomira.it/ Forte Poerio], in Mira (12km from Venice)


Action against the TGV being finished - fast to Barcelona instead of the small Cerbere line.
'''Activity:''' [http://www.venezia2012.it/?lang=en Degrowth conference]


Perpignon
'''Distance:'''


Port-la nouvelle (to Sete is a pretty path)
'''Notes:''' on 20th we will have an open biketour workshop at the conference from 11.45am-1.15pm at Ex-Cotonificio building, inside IUAV University area. :-)
No palm group who are anti-industrial group
To attend the rest of the conference you need to register through the website: http://www.venezia2012.it/?lang=en
We could do an action here
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Narbonne
'''Fin!'''
A city and Francois has contacts


Beziers
== Route Maps on G$$gle ==
People live on boats


Sete
The route till now is based mostly on google maps and some information got on the web, they will still change when we get access to proper maps and some parts need to be checked in person (mostly the crossing from Gap to Torino).


Frontignan
These are not reliable to know where we will be when, you need to check the route above which is more up to date.


(From Cerbere to Aige Marts it's easy on bikes along the coast and it gets really busy, also Francois has lots of contacts)
easy way on getting BIG printable maps with google maps: http://ask.metafilter.com/101435/Print-A3-Google-Maps


Montpellier
* [http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?vps=73&hl=en&ie=UTF8&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=202614598037844903493.0004bd4ffb1791c8a92f0 Barcelona -> Girona -> Cerbere]
Francois contact
* [http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?vps=72&hl=en&ie=UTF8&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=202614598037844903493.0004bd5083ebe56957026 Cerbere -> Narbone -> Montpellier]
* [http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?vps=2&hl=en&ie=UTF8&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=202614598037844903493.0004bd50b581f166de15b Montpellier -> Avignon] (not direct route - going north near Cévennes National Park)
* [http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=202614598037844903493.0004bd525a243b67d2865 Avignon -> Marseille - Éourres] (end part seems a bit hilly for no reason, maybe we can go around by Sisteron)
* [http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?ie=UTF8&hl=en&oe=UTF8&msa=0&msid=202614598037844903493.0004bd52858cc6162284c Éourres -> Gap -> Torino] (crossing the alpes need more investigation - probably on the cyclocamp alice and joão will try to cycle this part - it still looks like we could try to go in valleys instead of crossing so many hills)
*[http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msid=202614598037844903493.0004bd52f6fe40b63feca&msa=0 Torino -> Bologna]
*[http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msid=202614598037844903493.0004bf0a4c1a8aba8e6b7&msa=0 Bologna -> Venice]


sommieres
==Helpful links and maps==
contact from F(hilly area)
there are this maps that yolanda found out:
http://www.cyclingeurope.nl/provence
http://www.cyclingeurope.nl/riviera


Cevennes national park is really hilly
many bicycle routes and tools to plan a bike route (need further investigation):
http://www.provelo.org/spip.php?article2627


Avignon (pretty)
and there are GPX and GPD (gps standards) files there, this website is useful to visualize them: http://www.gpsvisualizer.com/
No car group and a contact


Marseille
The EV8 (EuroVelo Route 8) should be followed and we can make deviations from it to visit some projects and places: [http://www.rollglobal.org/2010/11/tourplanning/ informaton on EuroVelo]
Water financialisation
Youcef's bike workshop, they have plan to host us, we need to link them with other collectives to make a nice action there...


La Crau
Catalunia detailed maps (1:250000) were found (easily downloadble) on [http://cartotecadigital.icc.cat/cdm/ Institut Cartogràfic de Catalunya Cartoteca Online])
There is a longo Mai


It's really important to study how to do this area (Euro Velo 8) Aix en provence area to Nice - Very important to Check
France detailed maps can also be find in [http://www.geoportail.fr/ 'Institut national de l'information géographique et forestière GeoPortal] (easy to navigate online but not so easy to download them)


=== Italy ===
=== More possibilities ===


* Torino
- Les reencontres Des amis de S!lence (http://amies.revuesilence.net/spip.php?article73)
Most probably we can stay in colegno where the reclaim the fields was ([http://nautilus.ecn.org/reclaimthefields%20lettera.html]), need to double check it with nemo and oracio
a bit more north from foix, in Loubières, from 9 to 24 july  it's a self-managed camp, but besides that there is not much information, they were conected with the Camp Action Climate 2009 in Nantes - sounds great, it was the start of ZAD, but last year information don't look like an active/activist gathering but more a sharing information/workshops - probably 100% in french as it dosen't look like they plan ot make an international call-out
we should conect with the NO TAV and Vall di susa strugle, maybe cross the allpes on that area and see the zone they want to destroy...


* Bologna
Marseille
XM24 ([http://www.ecn.org/xm24/])- big squat with an organic market every thrusday and a nice bike DIY workshop:
Water financialisation
Amppioraggio ([http://ampioraggio.contaminati.net])
Youcef's bike workshop, they have plan to host us, we need to link them with other collectives to make a nice action there...
Also would be nice to link to local productors: [http://www.autistici.org/campiaperti/genuino-clandestino/]


== planning - rough maps/distances ==
== planning - rough maps/distances ==
Line 263: Line 1,062:


'''ideas to cross the alps'''
'''ideas to cross the alps'''
** We need to count 20/30km per day
** Near the sea, next to monaco - not so fun, full of tourists and traffic
** Near the sea, next to monaco - not so fun, full of tourists and traffic
** Barcelonnette - at less tan 1400m high seems like the less hard/more fun place to cross
** Barcelonnette - at less tan 1400m high seems like the less hard/more fun place to cross
** Briançon - the one that makes more sense after passing by [http://tilia.canalblog.com/ L'Ecolieu Tilia & Compagni]
** Briançon - the one that makes more sense after passing by [http://tilia.canalblog.com/ L'Ecolieu Tilia & Compagni]  
Group tour which has done this: http://www.adventure-cafe.com/content/Foreignadventure/ForeignAdDetail.asp?aid=1313080422
** Mont-Cenis, Lanslebourg-Mont-Cenis - a bit high place but it would mean entering italy through vall di susa - needs further invesstigation
** Mont-Cenis, Lanslebourg-Mont-Cenis - a bit high place but it would mean entering italy through vall di susa - needs further invesstigation


Line 279: Line 1,080:


* [http://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=Bologna,+Italy&daddr=45.35607,11.94817+to:Venice,+Italy&hl=en&sll=44.988113,11.843262&sspn=1.736563,3.532104&geocode=FW7tpgIdViKtACmVmy6-m9R_RzFBOWB2eDJt3A%3BFSYUtAIdilC2ACl1aEvhnMR-RzGQ85IFhwkHEw%3BFeBFtQIdYEa8ACkfb1JTCq9-RzGwX5EVhwkHBA&oq=Venice&dirflg=w&mra=dpe&mrsp=1&sz=8&via=1&t=m&z=8 Bologna -> Venezia] (180km - 4 days)
* [http://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=Bologna,+Italy&daddr=45.35607,11.94817+to:Venice,+Italy&hl=en&sll=44.988113,11.843262&sspn=1.736563,3.532104&geocode=FW7tpgIdViKtACmVmy6-m9R_RzFBOWB2eDJt3A%3BFSYUtAIdilC2ACl1aEvhnMR-RzGQ85IFhwkHEw%3BFeBFtQIdYEa8ACkfb1JTCq9-RzGwX5EVhwkHBA&oq=Venice&dirflg=w&mra=dpe&mrsp=1&sz=8&via=1&t=m&z=8 Bologna -> Venezia] (180km - 4 days)
== other ==
just a rough google map to have a distance idea: [http://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=barcelona&daddr=Cerb%C3%A8re,+France+to:Marseille,+France+to:Draguignan,+France+to:Turin,+Italy+to:Bologna,+Italy+to:Venice,+Italy&hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=43.34116,7.492676&spn=6.80715,14.128418&sll=43.29307,6.75822&sspn=6.812512,14.128418&geocode=FY2HdwIdPxwhACn1KO0mcZikEjEwA6Qh4PoABA%3BFQWZhwIdM0owACm3eZ2Skn66EjEgbWcWIYgHBA%3BFeKmlAIdtO9RACkzU9pEQ7_JEjEgApf9pRkIBA%3BFT9VmAId4aViACmX3glziavOEjGgzY_9pRkIBA%3BFQS6rwId9EB1ACnfXO3DDG2IRzHglDxHfeYFBA%3BFW7tpgIdViKtACmVmy6-m9R_RzFBOWB2eDJt3A%3BFeBFtQIdYEa8ACkfb1JTCq9-RzGwX5EVhwkHBA&oq=Ven&dirflg=w&mra=ls&t=m&z=6 here]




== other ==
[[Category:Biketour 2012]]
just a rough google map to have a distance idea: http://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=barcelona&daddr=Cerb%C3%A8re,+France+to:Marseille,+France+to:Draguignan,+France+to:Turin,+Italy+to:Bologna,+Italy+to:Venice,+Italy&hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=43.34116,7.492676&spn=6.80715,14.128418&sll=43.29307,6.75822&sspn=6.812512,14.128418&geocode=FY2HdwIdPxwhACn1KO0mcZikEjEwA6Qh4PoABA%3BFQWZhwIdM0owACm3eZ2Skn66EjEgbWcWIYgHBA%3BFeKmlAIdtO9RACkzU9pEQ7_JEjEgApf9pRkIBA%3BFT9VmAId4aViACmX3glziavOEjGgzY_9pRkIBA%3BFQS6rwId9EB1ACnfXO3DDG2IRzHglDxHfeYFBA%3BFW7tpgIdViKtACmVmy6-m9R_RzFBOWB2eDJt3A%3BFeBFtQIdYEa8ACkfb1JTCq9-RzGwX5EVhwkHBA&oq=Ven&dirflg=w&mra=ls&t=m&z=6

Latest revision as of 18:55, 22 December 2015

Brainstorming Map

Here there is a googlemap to share interesting projects/places/actions/camps/etc that you might think biketour could visit this year. This is now really full of great projects but we will always be looking for more contacts so please add to this: http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msid=202614598037844903493.0004b87154a1e6e346552&msa=0

Sleeping Places Map

Here is a map to give you an idea of where we will be each day. Sometimes camping spots are not in exactly the right location so contact the tour to find out where we are if you are joining us! Green pin- location confirmed Green balloon - contact confirmed, location TBA Blue - rough area, nothing confirmed Blue pin - exact location confirmed, need to confirm we are welcome

https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msid=203792359271441496529.0004c3865329d9324382e&msa=0&ll=45.073521,6.965332&spn=9.448627,19.753418


Detailed maps

We manage to arranged some detailed maps for the route each area (Catalonia, France, Italy) has a diferent zoom and quality, we tried to get detailed enough maps and minimize the number of maps, ended up with 32 diferent maps for the whole route separated in 3 different ZIP files for each area.

Detailed maps
Catalonia France Italy
6th to 14th July map1.png 22nd and 23rd July map6.png 25th to 27th August map18.png
15th July map2.png 24th to 26th July map7.png 27th to 30th August map19.png
16th and 17th July map3.png 27th to 28th July map8.png 30th August map20.png
17th and 18th July map4.png 29th and 30th July map9.png 30th and 31st August map21.png
18th to 21st July map5.png 31st July to 4th August map10.png 31th August to 3rd September map22.png
4th to 6th August map11.png 3rd and 4th September map23.png
7th to 9th August map12.png 4th and 5th September map24.png
10th and 11th August map13.png 5th September map25.png
12th to 15th August map14.png 5th and 6th September map26.png
15th to 23rd August map15.png 6th to 11th September map27.png
23rd to 24th August map16.png 11th September map28.png
25th August map17.png 11th and 13th September map29.png
13th and 14th September map30.png
14th and 15th September map31.png
15th to 19th September map32.png

Day by Day plan

THIS ROUTE IS NOT FINAL, IT WILL STILL CHANGE!!!

The tour begins on 9th July and ends on 16th September, making 70 days in total

  • (23 days in July, 31 days in August & 16 days in September)

6-9th July Biketour preparation weekend at Can Masdeu (Barcelona)

  • (5th July - go to Can Masdeu, set up shade water etc.)
  • 6th July - Meet at Can Masdeu, cook together, set up camp and get ready for critical mass, leave Can Masdeu at 7pm for to arrive 8pm critical mass, Arc de Triomf (or get ready in calle Princesa)
  • 7th July - Fall in love with your bike day 12-3pm at Biciclot, shared comida, basic bike maintenance and getting ready for the road
  • 8th July Deggrowth Biketour Open day at Can Masdeu 11.00h-18.00h, build rocket stove, degrowth workshop, movie screening
  • 9th July BIKETOUR BEGINS

For more details visit preparation weekend 2012

Catalonia

  • 6-9 July Barcelona

Host: Can Masdeu

See: preparation weekend 2012

  • 9 July Can Masdeu > Kan Pasqual

Host: Kan Pascual

Activity:Bicicletada en defensa de Collserola i contra Eurovegas (Bikeride in defence of Collserola mountain and against Eurovegas)

  • 10h. Leave from Can Masdeu
  • 12h. Meet Vallvidrera, Pl. Mont d'Orsà (where we find out more information about the two struggles).
  • 14h. Open lunch at Kan Pasqual (people need to bring something to share)

Distance: 20km

Notes: Also a time for last bike adjustments

  • 10th July Barcelona > Vallbona d'Anoia

Host: Ca l'afou

Activity: On the way cycle via LLobregat Delta for EuroVegas Action & Visit [http://www.calrosset.com/ Can Rosset], Camille's food coop

Distance: 90km

Notes:(perhaps take off a day here and stay a day in Terrassa instead?)

  • 11th July Ca l'afou (Vallbona d'Anoia)

Host: Ca l'afou

Activity: Work day

Distance: 0km

Notes:

  • 12th July Ca l'afou (Vallbona d'Anoia)

Host: Ca l'afou

Activity: Work day

Distance: 0km

Notes:

  • 13 July Vallbona d'Anoia > La Llagosta, Barcelona

Host: Can Piella

Activity: we could try to go to Can Tobella for Lunch on the way? - maybe a bit too up hill for just a short lunch visit. Fiesta.

Distance: 60km

Notes:

  • 14 July La Llagosta, Barcelona

Host: Can Piella

Distance: 0Km

Notes: Work day

  • 15 July La Llagosta > San pol de mar

Host: through Iago

Activity: Iago - Artist friend of Francois is helping to organise a Degrowth and poetry evening

Distance: 47km

Notes:

  • 16 July San pol de mar > Sant Feliu de Guixols(?)

Host: Free camp

Activity: we could do an action at Tossa De Mar against construction if we can contact Naturalists Girona - Not succecuful till now

Distance: 54km

Notes:

  • 17 July Sant Feliu de Guixols > Girona

Host: Kan Rusk (contact through Kan Kolmo)

Activity: Contact with NO MAT strugle and people from the old forest protest site [1] Bike workshop in Kan KolmoKan Kolmo

Distance: 37km

Notes:

  • 18 July Girona > Crespia

Host: Can Prim

Activity: Build compost toilet 5pm

Distance: 30km

Notes: Invite Nuria to come and join us

  • 19 July Crespia > San Climent Sescebes, Espolla - (need to check the exact place!)

Host: Can Torres - an organic wine farm

Activity: Lunch in figueres on the way. Meet in the market between 12-1pm for the Verd meeting. Food made in squat social centre 'El Taller'

Say hi to Can Torrent (Okupa)?

Distance: 30km

Notes:

France

  • 20th July San Climent Sescebes > Cerbere

Host:Can Decreix

Activity: Fiesta

Distance: 40km

Notes: Food drop?

  • 21st July Cerbere

Host:Can Decreix

Activity: work/rest

Distance: 0km

Notes: Catch up on contacts and internet

  • 22 July Cerbere > Perpignan

Host: Accomodation and action is organised by the association of cyclists vélo en têt, http://veloentet.free.fr"

Activity: meet at the beach on the north of Villneuve de la raho lake at 4pm, critical mass to Perpignan, 6pm in Perpignan we meet at 'Arago' by the statue for a critical mass in the city. Accomodation and action is organised by the association of cyclists vélo en têt, http://veloentet.free.fr"

Distance: 50km

Notes:

  • 23 July Perpignan > Sigean

Host: Laurence can receive us in their camping, in Sigean, Port la Nouvelle area (contact of Kasia and francois)

Activity: Potential anti- palm oil action

Distance: 48km

Notes:

  • 24th July Sigean > Minerve

Host: Cravirola le maquis

Activity:

Distance: 55km

Notes: If we want to stay here then we would need to book and pay, group to decide

  • 25th July Minerve

Host: Cravirola le maquis

Activity: RELAX

Distance: 0km

Notes: If we want to stay here then we would need to book and pay, group to decide

  • 26 July Minerve > Béziers (?)

Host: Possible contact through Luham, house here with nice library

Activity:

Distance: 50km

Notes: No contacts here yet...

  • 27 July Bézier > Sète/Frontignan (?)

Host:

Activity:

Distance: 50km

Notes: No contacts confirmed here yet...

  • 28 July Sète/Frontignan > Montpellier

Host:

Activity:

Distance: 22km

Notes: alex vieuxbiclou (only mobilephone contact)

squat de marou 34 (castle) (only phone contact- contact of a house in montpleir that has contact with the squat)

Marou - Causse de la selle - 34380 Chemin-de-Marou old news: http://old.squat.net/fr/news/marou300809.html

  • 29 July Montpellier > Pompignan (?)

Host:

Activity:

Distance: 40km

Notes:

  • 30 July Pompignan > Sant Jean du Gard, Cevennes, La Borie

Host: Potentially La Borie

Activity: finding out about the Cevennes

Distance: 35km

Notes: if we don't hear back from them we could go to vallette directly and have a rest day there eijamin says it's possible to just appear probably

http://www.pierreseche.net/laborie.htm http://ecolieuxdefrance.free.fr/LES_SITES/Ecosite_la_Borie.htm info quiosque in the same village: http://infokiosques.net/bibliotheque152

  • 31 July Sant Jean du Gard > La Valette, Robiac-Rochessadoule

Host: Potentially (near la vielle Valette)

Activity:

Distance: 35km

Notes:

  • 1st August Robiac-Rochessadoule > Berrias-et-Casteljau

Host:

Activity: Visit to the school at 5pm (would cost 50€) Le Hameau de bois/la ferme des enfants

Distance: 25km

Notes: if no response could stay at VV longer or move on towards the gorges

  • 2nd August

Host: Find camping spot

Activity: Rest day réserve naturelle des gorges de l'ardèche

Distance: 0km/25km (70km between Berrias-et-casteljau and Valaurie)

Notes: Look into fun stuff

  • 3rd August Near Saint-Marcel-d'Ardèche > Valaurie

Host: Faisanderie de la Berre

Activity:

Distance: (70km between Berrias-et-casteljau and Valaurie)

Notes:

  • 4th August Valaurie > Avignon

Host:

Activity: meet the serious bean project :-)

Distance: 65km

Notes: Need to find host

  • 5th August Avignon

Host:

Activity:

Distance: 0km

Notes:Try and meet Roulons à velo

  • 6th August Avignon > Arles

Host: maybe Longo mai, la Mas de Granier or through friend of Filka if this doesn't work

Activity:

Distance: 50km (along the river)

Notes: look for a cycle path along the river¨! Les Baux-de-Provence is really pretty says Seb

  • 7th August Arles > Fos-sur-mere

Host:

Activity: There is a small airport here, possible ZAD solidarity action

Distance: 30km

Notes: Possible detour via nice park naturel de camargue

  • 8th August Fos-sur-mere > Marseille

Host: Velo Marseille workshop collective velo-en-ville

Activity: Possible link to anti - water finacialisation campaign

Distance: 50km

Notes:

  • 9th August Marseille

Host:

Activity:

Distance: 0km

Notes:


  • 10th August - 11th August Marseille > Vaucluse

Host: Longo Mai - Cabrery

Activity: Possible work day

Distance: 65km

Notes: Not cot confirmed whether we will stay here or Eourres for two nights

  • 12th August Vaucluse > somewhere in the middle (Banon ?)

Host:

Activity:

Distance: 35km

Notes:

  • 13th August Banon > Éourres

Host: Éourres Village

Activity: Link with Sens et autonomie

Distance: 30km

Notes: It has not been decided whether we stay here two days or in Longo mai - C. Take a day from here if needed)

  • 14th August Éourres

Host: Éourres Village

Activity:

Distance: 0km

Notes:

  • 15th August Éourres > somewhere on the way to Gap

Host:

Activity:

Distance:(120km from Éourres to SLEB)

Notes:

  • 16th August Somewhere on the way to Gap > Somewhere past Gap

Host:

Activity:

Distance:(120km from Éourres to SLEB)

Notes: till gap is more or less flat (the end is going up till gap around 12km up) after gap 20km going up (the end is hard [but possible]) then it's going down almost till SLEB

  • 17th - 21st August Somewhere past Gap > Saint-Laurent-en-Beaumont

Host: L'Ecolieu Tilia & Compagnie

Activity: Help with house build

Distance: 0km

Notes:

WARNING: WE HAVE NOT LOOKED IN DETAIL AT THE ALPS CROSSING SO THE NEXT DAYS ARE LIKELY TO CHANGE A BIT

check if there is a tunnel from briançon to susa and if there is a way to cross by public transport (there is a bus that can take bikes from briançon to montgenevre)

  • 22nd August Saint-Laurent-en-Beaumont > ? (cordeac or abit more)

Host:

Activity:

Distance: 50km

Notes: there is a house project called kraken (mens, france) trying to make things without money (contact caro) it's a bit longer but quieter roa'in Cordeac there is also a house where we could maybe stay and this way we could do a way back to gap from a diferent path... contact in cardeac: laurence contact of caro from a femenist library) - we have phone number

  • 23rd August (cordeac or abit more) ? > ?

Host:

Activity:

Distance: 60km

Notes: we should try to pass the big lake (or even embrum) the day after to briançon will be hard

  • 24rd August ? > Briançon

Host: Longo Mai - Chantemerle

Activity:

Distance: 40km

Notes:

Italy

  • 25th August Briançon > Susa, Val di Susa

Host: NO TAV or another potential host in Chimonte (contact Valentina friend of Fede)

Activity: Action in solidarity with NO TAV sruggle

Distance: 65km (first 15km are going to be (really) hard, then it's all going down

Notes: we need to check also bus from bus briançon to oulx (just 40 km) for people that don't feel like crossing the alps)...or if traffic is too crazy...We could make a proposal to do a presentation in Chimonte if we like.

  • 26th August Day in Susa

Host:

Activity:

Notes:

  • 27th August Susa > Collegno, Torino,

Host: Mezcal squat

Activity:

Distance: 45km

Notes:

  • 28th August Torino/collegno

Host: Mezcal

Activity: Possible link with Degrowth association in Torino (<jean.84@libero.it>)

Distance: 0km

Notes:

  • 29th August Collegno > Pinerolo

Host: Casa Gaia

Activity: Environmental think tank

Distance: 40km

Notes:

  • 30th August Pinerolo > Somewhere around Asti

Host:

Activity:

Distance: ~70km

Notes:

  • 31st August somewhere around Asti > Montale Celli, Costa Vescovato,

Host: Coop. Agricola Valli Unite

Activity:

Distance: ~70km

Notes: We arrive this day which is the first day of our helping with the festival :-)

  • 1st September Valli Unite, Montale Celli

Host: Coop. Agricola Valli Unite

Activity: Helping with Vendemmia (the grape harvesting festival) see photos from 2010 Maybe giving a biketour presentation

Distance: 0km

Notes:

  • 2nd September

Host: Valli Unite, Montale Celli

Activity: Helping with Vendemmia (the grape harvesting festival) see photos from 2010

Distance: 0km

Notes: Perhaps we need to cycle this day instead to leave time but it would be nice to stay.

  • 3rd September Montale Celli > near Castel San Giovanni

Host: Free camp

Activity:

Distance: about 65km (this map shows a bike path: http://www.piste-ciclabili.com/comune-castel_san_giovanni)

Notes: Would be nice to cycle to http://www.granara.org/ but it might be a bit mad... the plan before was the flat direction towards reggio A but this would take us into the Alpennines...

the plan before was to follow the Po River, there are bicycle way most of it, from Castell San Giovanni to Reggio Emillia (Brescelo?)

gps maps here: http://www.movimentolento.it/it/resource/statictrack/la-ciclovia-del-po/ in detail: http://www.lecicloviedelpo.movimentolento.it/it/resource/tour/la-ciclovia-del/

  • 4th September near Castel San Giovanni >

Host: Free camp

Activity: Nature reserve http://www.villanovaparchi.it/ near where we would need to camp...

Distance: about 65km

Notes:

  • 5th September > Cavriago/ Reggio d'Amilia

Host: Organic farm La Collina where we can stay in Cavriago- contact through Andrea. We also have contacts selini@icoor.it, Manuel Iori <manuel.iori@unimore.it>

Activity: in Reggio Amilia the mobility manager for the municipality, Meggiato, is keen to do a presentation about projects active in the area for an afternoon

Distance: 50/60km depending on where we are the night before Here is a map along the river: http://www.stradadelculatello.it/docs/cartina_biciparmaPo.PDF from Polesine direction Reggio Emilia, then towards Reggio Amilia: http://www.piste-ciclabili.com/comune-guastalla

Notes: Perhaps some meeting this evening?

  • 6th September Cavriago/Reggio d'Amilia > Bologna

Host: XM24

Activity: big squat with an organic market every Thursday. Also would be nice to link to local productors.

Distance: 70km

Notes: (this is the day where there is a big market in Bologna...)

  • 7th September Bologna

Host:

Activity:

Distance: 0km

Notes: contacts in bologna: "Yuri Foschi (amppioraggio)" yuriski gmail.com, Lorenzo Betti <bettilorenzo gmail.com>, Giamba XM24 Bologna <giumba freemail.it>, ampioraggio inventati.org, Andrea Magnolini <magno_lini yahoo.it>


  • 8th September Bologna

Host: XM24

Activity:Ciclofficina Ampioraggio :-) Nice DIY workshop

Distance: 0km

Notes:

  • 9th September Bologna

Host: XM24

Activity:Ciclofficina Ampioraggio :-) Nice DIY workshop

Distance: 0km

Notes:

  • 10th September Bologna > Ozzano Emilia

Host: Coop Dulcamara (www.coopdulcamara.it)- via tolara di sopra 78

Activity: Ecological farm, biodiversity- bio agricolture- alternative energies

Distance: 20km

Notes:

  • 11th September Ozzano Emilia > Cesena

Host:Technologie AppropriateCesena via Germazzo 186

Activity: Ecoistituto di cesena biodiversity- bio agricolture- alternative energies- library on appropriate tecnologies- bio building- earth oven for pizza

Distance: 77km

Notes:

  • 12th September Cesena > Villanova di Bagnacavallo

Host: Ecomuseo della civiltà Palustre(www.erbepalustri.it)

Activity: Association for preservig traditional jobs and culture

Distance: 50km

Notes:

  • 13th September Villanova di Bagnacavallo (Erbe Palustre) > somewhere just before pomposa

Host: Wild camping

Activity: Abbazia di Pomposa very beatuful church of pelligrin, bosco della mesola (last traditional forest of padana plain)

Distance: 50km

Notes:

  • 14th September somewhere just before Pomposa > Somewhere before Padova

Host: Wild camping

Activity: Br-unch in Pomposa http://www.iricostruttori.com/ village reconstructed by hand

Distance: 50km

Notes:

  • 15th September Somewhere before Padova > Padova

Host: Orti in Padova with people from Reclaim the fields or through Matteo from la mente comune

Activity: check out the squatted garden and visit reuse and remade workshop; furniture, clothes and bike workshop in a nice green space

Distance: 50km

Notes:

  • 16th September Padova > Venice via Mestre (only 8km from Venice)

Host: Forte Poerio, in Mira (12km from Venice) contact through Rebecca.

Activity: Critical mass with No-AR (No Autostrada - highway - Romea), a part of CAT

Distance: 40km

Notes: (http://spiazziverdi.blogspot.it/) isola della giudecca association of bio agricolture and democratic participation in Venezia or Mestre (need to ask more info to andrea)

  • 17th September

Host: Forte Poerio, in Mira (12km from Venice)

Activity: Party with No Autostrada Romea – (campaign to protect the Brenta Riviera and Miranese), chance to learn about local groups/campaigns. CELEBRATE

Distance:

Notes:

  • 18th September

Host: Forte Poerio, in Mira (12km from Venice)

Activity: Something with WCN /Evaluation?

Distance:

Notes:

  • 19th-23rd September Venice

Host: Forte Poerio, in Mira (12km from Venice)

Activity: Degrowth conference

Distance:

Notes: on 20th we will have an open biketour workshop at the conference from 11.45am-1.15pm at Ex-Cotonificio building, inside IUAV University area. :-) To attend the rest of the conference you need to register through the website: http://www.venezia2012.it/?lang=en

Fin!

Route Maps on G$$gle

The route till now is based mostly on google maps and some information got on the web, they will still change when we get access to proper maps and some parts need to be checked in person (mostly the crossing from Gap to Torino).

These are not reliable to know where we will be when, you need to check the route above which is more up to date.

easy way on getting BIG printable maps with google maps: http://ask.metafilter.com/101435/Print-A3-Google-Maps

Helpful links and maps

there are this maps that yolanda found out: http://www.cyclingeurope.nl/provence http://www.cyclingeurope.nl/riviera

many bicycle routes and tools to plan a bike route (need further investigation): http://www.provelo.org/spip.php?article2627

and there are GPX and GPD (gps standards) files there, this website is useful to visualize them: http://www.gpsvisualizer.com/

The EV8 (EuroVelo Route 8) should be followed and we can make deviations from it to visit some projects and places: informaton on EuroVelo

Catalunia detailed maps (1:250000) were found (easily downloadble) on Institut Cartogràfic de Catalunya Cartoteca Online)

France detailed maps can also be find in 'Institut national de l'information géographique et forestière GeoPortal (easy to navigate online but not so easy to download them)

More possibilities

- Les reencontres Des amis de S!lence (http://amies.revuesilence.net/spip.php?article73) a bit more north from foix, in Loubières, from 9 to 24 july it's a self-managed camp, but besides that there is not much information, they were conected with the Camp Action Climate 2009 in Nantes - sounds great, it was the start of ZAD, but last year information don't look like an active/activist gathering but more a sharing information/workshops - probably 100% in french as it dosen't look like they plan ot make an international call-out

Marseille Water financialisation Youcef's bike workshop, they have plan to host us, we need to link them with other collectives to make a nice action there...

planning - rough maps/distances

* waiting for can masdeu confirmation (it's confirmed 6th to 9th of july)
  * after starting in barcelona we head to visit Ca l'afou - a eco-industrial post-capitalist colony
    * couple of workshops day (in can masdeu or ca l'afou): 
      * rocket stove
      * banners
      * cycling/group safety

ideas to cross the alps

    • We need to count 20/30km per day
    • Near the sea, next to monaco - not so fun, full of tourists and traffic
    • Barcelonnette - at less tan 1400m high seems like the less hard/more fun place to cross
    • Briançon - the one that makes more sense after passing by L'Ecolieu Tilia & Compagni

Group tour which has done this: http://www.adventure-cafe.com/content/Foreignadventure/ForeignAdDetail.asp?aid=1313080422

    • Mont-Cenis, Lanslebourg-Mont-Cenis - a bit high place but it would mean entering italy through vall di susa - needs further invesstigation
would be great if we pass through the vall di susa to understand what the population is defending from destruction...
this forum talks about some nice alps bike crossing routes: http://www.bikeforums.net/archive/index.php/t-256527.html
map of france/italy/swiss alps bike-climbs with details: http://www.cycling-challenge.com/map-of-french-and-swiss-alps-cycling-climbs/
http://www.cycling-challenge.com/barcelonnette-alpine-cycling-paradise/

other

just a rough google map to have a distance idea: here