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'''!!!DATA REMINDER!!! | |||
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== Get involved! == | |||
See the website's Get Involved Page [http://www.ecotopiabiketour.net/?page_id=49] for common things to help with. If you pick one or come up with something new: Down here is space to organise or share your work with others! | |||
=== Creative Work === | |||
* logo and graphics - check and keep [[BT_2014_advertising_material]] up to date | |||
* [[Booklet 2014]] | |||
* ...? | |||
=== Translation === | |||
We are always looking for translators - if you speak the local language of any of the places we will be passing through - please get in touch: | |||
info[at]ecotopiabiketour.net or see the [[2014 Text that needs translating]] page. | |||
=== Route and Maps === | |||
for collectively looking at our possible routes everyday please contribute to the [[2014 Route]] page. | |||
using facil map and the each section prepared | |||
profiles could be printed to be aware of any big climb | |||
and plan the day accordingly:sometimes there is a big 700 m climb at the end of the day. | |||
[[How to get there 2014]] | |||
== Ideas == | |||
=== Route possibilites from spring meeting 2014 === | |||
we | At the spring meeting in Thessaloniki in March 2014 we came to the following outlines of possible routes for 2014, based on the knowledge and/or contacts of a few projects we had. We aimed for about 1500 km in the outlines, which will surely become longer anyway once we fix more exact routes. | ||
There are two possible starting points: either on the western Balkan coast in Montenegro/Crna Gora close to Albania or in Sofija. There are also two possible final destinations, those being the two major big cities: either Athens or Istanbul. This makes up for 4, actually 5 of the following graphs, one of them trying to be both in Montenegro and Sofija, thus also a bit longer. The 6th option is a round trip from Thessaloniki through the northern neighbouring countries and back. | |||
All of those are preliminary, based on only few contacts, so anyone who could contribute any arguments as to why we should or should not go to a certain area/choose a certain route please post a comment here below the links. | |||
{| | |||
|+ ''Route options'' | |||
|- | |||
| A || [[File:Sofija-prishtina-skopje-thessaloniki-ierissos-peliti-komotini-istanbul.png|400px]] | |||
|- | |||
| B || [[File:Podgorica-shkodra-prishtina-skopje-thessaloniki-ierissos-peliti-komotini-istanbul.png|400px]] | |||
|- | |||
| C || [[File:Podgorica-shkoder-prishtina-skopje-ierissos-thessaloniki-volos-athina.png|400px]] | |||
|- | |||
| D || [[File:Podgorica-shkoder-prishtina-skopje-sofija-ierissos-thessaloniki-volos-athina.png|400px]] | |||
|- | |||
| E || [[File:Thessaloniki-ierissos-peliti-komotini-svilengrad-sofija-prishtina-skopje-thessaloniki1.png|400px]] | |||
|} | |||
'''We have decided to arrange a route starting in Sofia/Skopje/Nis or Prishtina going to Athens (so something between C and D without the Montenegro/Albania part), that is where we found many projects and have the most contacts''' | |||
==== I really like the idea of going to ... ==== | |||
* from Montenegro via Macedonia Albania bulgria Kosovo to Istanbul for a diversity of culture and history approach to crisis | |||
* Greece and | * Athens, since I found a lot of contacts there and on the way in the past few days. People in Greece say Istanbul is more active at the moment (on a distant judgement) but the biketour has been there in 2008 and never to any of the many places in the centre of Greece that have been established recently as people want to show that alternative living is possible, partly as a response to the crisis (sml) | ||
* ... | |||
* ... | * ... | ||
== | ==== We should avoid ... ==== | ||
* | * ... (that's me) | ||
* ...Flatire, broknspoke, Downhilbendfall, | |||
* ... | * ... | ||
== | ==== I prefer this option because ... ==== | ||
* | * Personally, I prefer not to make a bucle-close (circle) Tour... for envolving more regions. (kbra) | ||
* personally.a combination of a few proposed routes | |||
* | * on last year experience not many participants after 15th of august. lets do the most in the south Balkans. universities stop In june and end of august many need to head home..so why not a mid June start?? | ||
- could have been something to think about but with the state of the coordination just getting started we won't manage this. it is going to be rather a later start mid/end of July. which on the other hand has the advantage of September being cooler in the hot Southern Balkans and the heavy holiday season along the coast in Greece finishing, so also less traffic on the roads (sml) | |||
* again on last year experience places with no project planned ..lead to more exchange with local ie BrCKO and within the group | |||
- the late start might also lead to a spread of the number of participants less worrying for welcoming projects. | |||
==== whatever else ==== | |||
* It would be good to start in a city or town where there is a bike workshop because people coming from far away would have to build their bike before departing. (don't want to hitchhike with a bike across Europe). | |||
* If you are interested in southern Balkans traditional music, you can visit this website : [http://www.tousauxbalkans.net/Cat%C3%A9gorie:Pays http://www.tousauxbalkans.net/Cat%C3%A9gorie:Pays] (sorry it's in French). There you will find a lot of sheet music and videos. Music could possibly help us to communicate with local people. --[[User:Claire|Claire]] ([[User talk:Claire|talk]]) 14:43, 2 June 2014 (CEST) | |||
* ... | * ... | ||
any more comments and opinions welcome | |||
// | |||
=== Route / Region / Theme Ideas === | |||
The route and theme of this year's tour is not yet decided but we are looking to visit projects, join up with grassroots campaigns, NGOs and social movements and communities relevant to structural (economic/political) or personal (e.g. poverty as a result of austerity) crises and how people are finding creative solutions to coping with its effects or fighting against it. We will also revisit themes that we have seen in previous biketours such as 'degrowth', public debt, austerity, economic refugees, minorities and solidarity. | |||
What we do know is that we will be organising the tour from Thessaloniki in Northern Greece from March and will begin cycling in July, or possibly the beginning of August. Where we head to will depend on projects and opportunities we find to visit - and this all depends on the ideas that come from everyone.... | |||
If you can think of any places / people / communities / projects / activists in the southern Balkans area that we should visit to learn from, take part in actions or to lend a hand in some way, then put them on the list below or email team-2014@ecotopiabiketour.net (or both!). If you can't, but you know someone who can, perhaps someone living in this part of Europe, please ask them to share information so that we can consider their ideas, along with all of the other options, at our meeting in March. | |||
=== Theme Ideas ==== | |||
* Crisis and Creative Solution Approaches | |||
=== Project Visit Ideas === | |||
We will not display names of projects/organisations on the Wiki until we have had confirmation from them that this is ok. So, in these planning stages, can you recommend any places / people / communities / projects / activists in the southern Balkans area that we should visit to learn from, take part in actions or to lend a hand in some way? If you can't, but you know someone who can, perhaps someone living in this part of Europe, please do ask them to share information so that we can consider their ideas, along with all of the other options, at our meeting in March. | |||
Please send any info/ideas to '''team-2014 [[a]] ecotopiabiketour.net''' | |||
== Spring meeting 2014 == | |||
Dear ecotopians, | |||
we just finished our autumn meeting this year to discuss how we will organise ecotopia biketour 2014 - any contributions are welcome - and one of the points agreed there was that we will find a date and time for the SPRING MEETING as kick-off on next year's tour early enough so people can plan to be a part of it. | |||
The spring meeting will focus on the topic of the biketour, how we want bt days to be structured e.g. how long do we want to stay at projects and how far do we want to go, and of course route options. | |||
=== Where & When? === | |||
We have now set a date and place for the SPRING MEETING: | |||
Thessaloniki, Greece - where the tour will be co-ordinated from. | |||
13-16th March | |||
Concrete ideas in WHICH SPACE in a city it could take place are still being discussed. We have a potential venue, but if you do know of anywhere which could host meetings or people, write your suggestions here.... | |||
There will be places to stay for the Spring Meeting. The idea is to stay for as long as you can/want, not to feel like you have to come for all four days. Also we hope to find space so that people can stay on after to help with co-ordination if they'd like to. What accommdation there will be for biketour coordinators will become clearer in the beginning of March. | |||
[[Category:Biketour 2014]] | |||
Latest revision as of 11:46, 25 March 2016
!!!DATA REMINDER!!! This Wiki is a public space on the net. Be sensitive and responsible with the data you provide here. Think twice whether you, someone else or even groups/projects might have a problem (later) with information being posted here. Keep in mind that openness about information is a different thing from person to person and place to place and that unconscious handling of information can lead to problems later.
Get involved!
See the website's Get Involved Page [1] for common things to help with. If you pick one or come up with something new: Down here is space to organise or share your work with others!
Creative Work
- logo and graphics - check and keep BT_2014_advertising_material up to date
- Booklet 2014
- ...?
Translation
We are always looking for translators - if you speak the local language of any of the places we will be passing through - please get in touch: info[at]ecotopiabiketour.net or see the 2014 Text that needs translating page.
Route and Maps
for collectively looking at our possible routes everyday please contribute to the 2014 Route page. using facil map and the each section prepared profiles could be printed to be aware of any big climb and plan the day accordingly:sometimes there is a big 700 m climb at the end of the day.
Ideas
Route possibilites from spring meeting 2014
At the spring meeting in Thessaloniki in March 2014 we came to the following outlines of possible routes for 2014, based on the knowledge and/or contacts of a few projects we had. We aimed for about 1500 km in the outlines, which will surely become longer anyway once we fix more exact routes. There are two possible starting points: either on the western Balkan coast in Montenegro/Crna Gora close to Albania or in Sofija. There are also two possible final destinations, those being the two major big cities: either Athens or Istanbul. This makes up for 4, actually 5 of the following graphs, one of them trying to be both in Montenegro and Sofija, thus also a bit longer. The 6th option is a round trip from Thessaloniki through the northern neighbouring countries and back. All of those are preliminary, based on only few contacts, so anyone who could contribute any arguments as to why we should or should not go to a certain area/choose a certain route please post a comment here below the links.
| A | 
|
| B | 
|
| C | 
|
| D | 
|
| E | 
|
We have decided to arrange a route starting in Sofia/Skopje/Nis or Prishtina going to Athens (so something between C and D without the Montenegro/Albania part), that is where we found many projects and have the most contacts
I really like the idea of going to ...
- from Montenegro via Macedonia Albania bulgria Kosovo to Istanbul for a diversity of culture and history approach to crisis
- Athens, since I found a lot of contacts there and on the way in the past few days. People in Greece say Istanbul is more active at the moment (on a distant judgement) but the biketour has been there in 2008 and never to any of the many places in the centre of Greece that have been established recently as people want to show that alternative living is possible, partly as a response to the crisis (sml)
- ...
- ...
We should avoid ...
- ... (that's me)
- ...Flatire, broknspoke, Downhilbendfall,
- ...
I prefer this option because ...
- Personally, I prefer not to make a bucle-close (circle) Tour... for envolving more regions. (kbra)
- personally.a combination of a few proposed routes
- on last year experience not many participants after 15th of august. lets do the most in the south Balkans. universities stop In june and end of august many need to head home..so why not a mid June start??
- could have been something to think about but with the state of the coordination just getting started we won't manage this. it is going to be rather a later start mid/end of July. which on the other hand has the advantage of September being cooler in the hot Southern Balkans and the heavy holiday season along the coast in Greece finishing, so also less traffic on the roads (sml)
- again on last year experience places with no project planned ..lead to more exchange with local ie BrCKO and within the group
- the late start might also lead to a spread of the number of participants less worrying for welcoming projects.
whatever else
- It would be good to start in a city or town where there is a bike workshop because people coming from far away would have to build their bike before departing. (don't want to hitchhike with a bike across Europe).
- If you are interested in southern Balkans traditional music, you can visit this website : http://www.tousauxbalkans.net/Cat%C3%A9gorie:Pays (sorry it's in French). There you will find a lot of sheet music and videos. Music could possibly help us to communicate with local people. --Claire (talk) 14:43, 2 June 2014 (CEST)
- ...
any more comments and opinions welcome
//
Route / Region / Theme Ideas
The route and theme of this year's tour is not yet decided but we are looking to visit projects, join up with grassroots campaigns, NGOs and social movements and communities relevant to structural (economic/political) or personal (e.g. poverty as a result of austerity) crises and how people are finding creative solutions to coping with its effects or fighting against it. We will also revisit themes that we have seen in previous biketours such as 'degrowth', public debt, austerity, economic refugees, minorities and solidarity.
What we do know is that we will be organising the tour from Thessaloniki in Northern Greece from March and will begin cycling in July, or possibly the beginning of August. Where we head to will depend on projects and opportunities we find to visit - and this all depends on the ideas that come from everyone....
If you can think of any places / people / communities / projects / activists in the southern Balkans area that we should visit to learn from, take part in actions or to lend a hand in some way, then put them on the list below or email team-2014@ecotopiabiketour.net (or both!). If you can't, but you know someone who can, perhaps someone living in this part of Europe, please ask them to share information so that we can consider their ideas, along with all of the other options, at our meeting in March.
Theme Ideas =
- Crisis and Creative Solution Approaches
Project Visit Ideas
We will not display names of projects/organisations on the Wiki until we have had confirmation from them that this is ok. So, in these planning stages, can you recommend any places / people / communities / projects / activists in the southern Balkans area that we should visit to learn from, take part in actions or to lend a hand in some way? If you can't, but you know someone who can, perhaps someone living in this part of Europe, please do ask them to share information so that we can consider their ideas, along with all of the other options, at our meeting in March.
Please send any info/ideas to team-2014 a ecotopiabiketour.net
Spring meeting 2014
Dear ecotopians,
we just finished our autumn meeting this year to discuss how we will organise ecotopia biketour 2014 - any contributions are welcome - and one of the points agreed there was that we will find a date and time for the SPRING MEETING as kick-off on next year's tour early enough so people can plan to be a part of it. The spring meeting will focus on the topic of the biketour, how we want bt days to be structured e.g. how long do we want to stay at projects and how far do we want to go, and of course route options.
Where & When?
We have now set a date and place for the SPRING MEETING:
Thessaloniki, Greece - where the tour will be co-ordinated from. 13-16th March
Concrete ideas in WHICH SPACE in a city it could take place are still being discussed. We have a potential venue, but if you do know of anywhere which could host meetings or people, write your suggestions here....
There will be places to stay for the Spring Meeting. The idea is to stay for as long as you can/want, not to feel like you have to come for all four days. Also we hope to find space so that people can stay on after to help with co-ordination if they'd like to. What accommdation there will be for biketour coordinators will become clearer in the beginning of March.